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- Mary Helen Haines notes:
I have not found the marriage documentation for Mary Kinder and John McFarland, so the search for Mary Kinder's parents is also incomplete. Other researchers have stated that the marriage took place in Bedford County because that is where John McFarland was living, but there is no documentation. Also, I have not found any records of Kinders in Bedford Co. at any time. I think Mary is the daughter of either Gasper Kinder, below, or George Kinder. The Kinders lived just south of the McFarlands in Montgomery County VA, and although the McFarland family had moved to Bedford Co. in the late 1750s, they retained ownership of their land until the 60s and 70s. The names of the Kinders in Montgomery County VA, George and Jacob, are reflected in two names of John and Mary's children.
There was a Gasper Kinder who settled on land at Great Spring on Reed Creek, surveyed for Loyal Company 1753. This land comes into Robert McFarland's possession in 1762-Augusta Co. records. "Early Adventures on the Western Waters, Wythe County, Vol. 2. p. 119, page 251 Cert. book.
From "Early Adventurers On The Western Waters" Volume V, Mary B. Kegley, 2004: p. 315-18
The Wythe Co. Kinders were around from the signing of the petition for a new county in 1768/9 and included Gasper Gender, George Gender, and Jacob. The name in German is Gunder or Gunter, but appears as Kinder in the first tithables in 1771. "It is believed that Gasper (also Casper) and Peter (and Margaret) Kinder lived in the vicinity of Staley's Crossroads. Gasper's land came as an assignment of Robert Mcfarlin and at some unknown time Kinder assigned his claim to William Boyd. Gasper may have been living on Reed Creek as early as 1766 as he was in company with Robert McFarland and Josiah Ramsey and paid McFarland (or McFarlin) for a tract of land on the north side of Pine Ridge at that time. This fact is recorded in an unusual document filed in 1785 in the will book of Montgomery County (Will Book B, p. 78)..... Gasper also appeared on the list of Fincastle County soldiers in 1774. In that same year a fort was erected at Gasper's house and ammunition was requested for the war effort by Captain Robert Doak. (Papers of William Preston, 3QQ61, p. 79)...Cameron suggests the possibility that Casper was the same as Johann Gasper Kinder born November 30, 1712 in Neunkirchen, in what is now Germany, but was unable to locate the necessary proof. The last time Casper (or Gasper) can be found in the records of the western part of Wythe County is 1793 when he took the Lord's Supper at Kimberling Lutheran Church. There is no record of his wife's name or the names of any children except his son Jacob (Cameron, Early Settlers, p. 161.)"
George and Michael Kinder appear in the Augusta Co. Deed Book 11, p. 37 in Nov. 16, 1762, when they purchase 34 acres of land from Henry Maese and wife Ann on a branch of Broad Run near Linvell's Creek, part of 400 acres surveyed to Thomas Beal. So, not all of the inhabitants of the area left for Bedford County as the result of the Indian raids of the late 50s and 60s.
If the above is true, then Gasper would be the brother of the Peter Kinder discussed below.
It has been suggested that Mary Kinder could possibly be the orphaned daughter of Johann Peter Kinder born in 1710 in Neunkirchen, Germany and wife Mary Magdalena Sattler, who he married in 1744 in Virginia. They were killed, along with a young child, in the Great Flood of 1749 on the Roanoke River, Virginia. They were buried in Salem, Virginia. Known children of Johann Peter and Mary are: Peter Kinder, born 1745, Sarah Kinder, born 1746, Christinah B. Kinder, born 1747, Catherine Kinder, born 1748, all in Augusta Co., VA. Here is their story below.
Notes from the Burk Familiy History website http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~swva/The%20Burk%20Family%20History.htm
"There was a terrible flood on Roanoke in August 1749. ....... Neighbors Peter Kinter, wife and child were washed away. One spectator said, "Entire hills were swept down and leveled and several tracts of bottom land, all inhabited, were filled with so much sand and gravel they can no longer be lived on. Houses and barns were carried away and with them a great deal of the crop. The Roanoke was a mile wide at several places and the water rose to 15 feet above dry land."( Samuel Eckerlin to Alexander Mack, Sept. 1749, Johnson, Patton and Colonists, p. 63)"
Note: Augusta County, VA consisted of all of southwest Virginia at the time. Below from site: http://www.clinchmountainhome.com/Nickels/castle.html
The following excerpt is from the Pennsylvania Berichte, a Germantown newspaper, published January 6, 1750. It is a letter from Samuel Eckerlin to Alexander Mack, Jr.
"Upon this occasion I want to report to you about the great inundations which occurred on the 25th of August, a little past midnight, on the Roanoke and the area northeast of it. Our river as well as the Little River were also very high but nobody here suffered mentionable damage. On the Roanoke, however, and other nearby places there was much damage. At several spots entire hills were swept down and leveled and several tracts of bottom land, all inhabited, were filled with so much gravel and sand that they can no longer be lived on. This I have seen myself. Also, houses and barns were carried away and with them a great deal of the crop. The Roanoke was a mile wide at several places and the water rose to 15 feet above otherwise dry land. Since you are familiar with this area, I want to give you details about several places as follows: One mile below Tobias Breit a man and a child were drowned; a woman managed to save herself on a tree; livestock was practically all drowned because the water rose so suddenly and right at midnight that none could have been driven away. The house of Henrich Braun with whom we stayed has been torn up. Clad in nothing but their shirts they got away with their children, the water reaching up to their arms. His three cows in the field were carried 3 miles downstream by the waters where they gained firm land alive. Peter Kinter and his wife found a horrible end. They were not yet asleep but had been drinking together, were in good cheer and thought of no danger till the water suddenly rose up to the house and no more escape was possible. So they retreated to the attic. No sooner had they reached it than the water rose up to them. They placed boards on the collar beam and sat on them. When the water reached up to their arms and no more flight seemed possible, he lost heart and told his people: He believed that this was another deluge and the Last Judgment had come. He asked his wife to give him a kiss. As he grabbed her, both slid from the board and away with the waters. Those who were with them on the boards saw no more of them.
"Kassel's wife and children and their old mother were in the house at the same time. They all survived up on the collar beam save for a small child whom Peter Kinter's wife had on her lap. It drowned with them. After daybreak, the others found out that they had been carried with the upper part of the house for a mile into some woods. They found a rope and tied it to a tree so that they would not be carried any further until the waters subsided or someone would come to their rescue. After a few days, Peter Kinter's wife was found dead and naked hanging on a tree with one arm. And several days later he was also found. But he had no more head and only one arm. Maybe some wild animal had already feasted on him."
There is also a Johann Casper Kinder born Nov. 30, 1712 in Neunkirchen, Saarbrucken, married to Anna Catherine Mueller, who is listed as having died Aug. 25, 1793 in Wythe Co. VA. He would appear to be the brother of the Peter Kinder who died in the flood. However, other researchers have his son, Peter, as born 1759 in East Bethlehem, Washington Co. PA, and with military service in the Rev. War in PA., and dying in Montgomery Co. Indiana. Is the Casper Kinder above the same as the Gasper Kinder on the roles in Montgomery Co. in the 1770s, and possibly Mary's father?
In the tithables for 1771, 1772, and 1773 for the Black Lick area are Gasper Kinder, George Kinder, Jacob Kinder, Peeter Kinder Sr. and Peeter KInder Jr. and Phillip Kinder. As well as Montgomerys, Finleys, Robert and son James Mackfarland, John McFarland, and Crocketts.
In Robert Doak's Company of Militia June 2nd, 1774 (Reed Creek area) is all the Doaks, and George, Peter and Jacob Kinder, as well as Waggoners, Gullions.
In Capt. William Doak's company in 1780 are the Wards, George Kinder, John McFarland,
In the 1782 tax list for Montgomery Co. a Peter Kinder, and a Joseph Kinder appear. In 1793, they still appear, but the county record is for Wyeth Co. Same area, just new county division.
It has been suggested that Mary Kinder could possibly be the orphaned daughter of Johann Peter Kinder born in 1710 in Neunkirchen, Germany and wife Mary Magdalena Sattler, who he married in 1744 in Virginia. They were killed, along with a young child, in the Great Flood of 1749 on the Roanoke River, Virginia. They were buried in Salem, Virginia. Known children of Johann Peter and Mary are: Peter Kinder, born 1745, Sarah Kinder, born 1746, Christinah B. Kinder, born 1747, Catherine Kinder, born 1748, all in Augusta Co., VA.
Notes from the Burk Familiy History website http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~swva/The%20Burk%20Family%20History.htm
"There was a terrible flood on Roanoke in August 1749. ....... Neighbors Peter Kinter, wife and child were washed away. One spectator said, "Entire hills were swept down and leveled and several tracts of bottom land, all inhabited, were filled with so much sand and gravel they can no longer be lived on. Houses and barns were carried away and with them a great deal of the crop. The Roanoke was a mile wide at several places and the water rose to 15 feet above dry land."( Samuel Eckerlin to Alexander Mack, Sept. 1749, Johnson, Patton and Colonists, p. 63)"
Note: Augusta County, VA consisted of all of southwest Virginia at the time. Below from site: http://www.clinchmountainhome.com/Nickels/castle.html
The following excerpt is from the Pennsylvania Berichte, a Germantown newspaper, published January 6, 1750. It is a letter from Samuel Eckerlin to Alexander Mack, Jr.
"Upon this occasion I want to report to you about the great inundations which occurred on the 25th of August, a little past midnight, on the Roanoke and the area northeast of it. Our river as well as the Little River were also very high but nobody here suffered mentionable damage. On the Roanoke, however, and other nearby places there was much damage. At several spots entire hills were swept down and leveled and several tracts of bottom land, all inhabited, were filled with so much gravel and sand that they can no longer be lived on. This I have seen myself. Also, houses and barns were carried away and with them a great deal of the crop. The Roanoke was a mile wide at several places and the water rose to 15 feet above otherwise dry land. Since you are familiar with this area, I want to give you details about several places as follows: One mile below Tobias Breit a man and a child were drowned; a woman managed to save herself on a tree; livestock was practically all drowned because the water rose so suddenly and right at midnight that none could have been driven away. The house of Henrich Braun with whom we stayed has been torn up. Clad in nothing but their shirts they got away with their children, the water reaching up to their arms. His three cows in the field were carried 3 miles downstream by the waters where they gained firm land alive. Peter Kinter and his wife found a horrible end. They were not yet asleep but had been drinking together, were in good cheer and thought of no danger till the water suddenly rose up to the house and no more escape was possible. So they retreated to the attic. No sooner had they reached it than the water rose up to them. They placed boards on the collar beam and sat on them. When the water reached up to their arms and no more flight seemed possible, he lost heart and told his people: He believed that this was another deluge and the Last Judgment had come. He asked his wife to give him a kiss. As he grabbed her, both slid from the board and away with the waters. Those who were with them on the boards saw no more of them.
"Kassel's wife and children and their old mother were in the house at the same time. They all survived up on the collar beam save for a small child whom Peter Kinter's wife had on her lap. It drowned with them. After daybreak, the others found out that they had been carried with the upper part of the house for a mile into some woods. They found a rope and tied it to a tree so that they would not be carried any further until the waters subsided or someone would come to their rescue. After a few days, Peter Kinter's wife was found dead and naked hanging on a tree with one arm. And several days later he was also found. But he had no more head and only one arm. Maybe some wild animal had already feasted on him."
Also, however, there was a Gasper Kinder who settled on land at Great Spring on Reed Creek, surveyed for Loyal Company 1753. This land comes into Robert McFarland's possession in 1762-Augusta Co. records. Need to research this more. "Early Adventures on the Western Waters, Wythe County, Vol. 2. p. 119, page 251 Cert. book.
In the 1782 tax list for Montgomery Co. a Peter Kinder, and a Joseph Kinder appear. In 1793, they still appear, but the county record is for Wyeth Co. Same area, just new county division.
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Abt 1742 - Aft 1786 (> 45 years)
